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this  system,  one,  which  implemented  it  (I  count
myself  to  this  generation),  and  one,  which  uses  this
technology  as  a  standard.
HN:  In  2014,  Rostock  started  the  project  »A  city
reads  Uwe  Johnson's  >Jahrestage«<.  Why  did  you
join  this  event  and  recited  a  chapter  in  the  radio?
Jonas:  Johnson  wasn't  published  in  the  former
GDR,  that's  why  I  didn't  know  his  work.  Maybe  the
Jahrestage  wouldn't  have  attracted  me  because
Johnson  isn't  an  easy  to  read  author.  To  broadcast
a  spoken  text  is  a  special  form  of  absorbing  it.  You
read  the  given  lines  over  and  over  again  and  with
an  increased  perception  for  the  rhythm  of  the
language.  I  really  enjoyed  being  part  of  this  city
project.
HN:  What  would  you  like  to  be  able  to  do?
Jonas:  I  would  like  to  play  the  piano.
HN:  What  do  you  know  without  being  able  to
prove  it?
Jonas:  I  believe  that  we  narrow  our  perception  if
we  regard  things  only  from  the  technical  point  of
view  and  their  usage.  That's  what  I  don't  like  about
globalisation  because  this  is  not  in  our  human  nature. ­
  The  all-encompassing  mechanisation  hasn't
brought  any  moral  development  globally.  I  believe
that  dealing  with  the  ocean  can  help  to  develop
a  humanistic  attitude.  We  all  are  fascinated  by  the
ocean,  the  great  expanse,  which  has  mobilised  the
inventiveness  and  forces  of  mankind.  I  am  sure  that

taking  over  responsibility  for  the  ocean  will  lead  us
to  a  more  respectful  behaviour  with  our  community. ­

HN:  Finally,  I  would  like  to
repeat  the  reporter's  guestion:
  Mr.  Jonas,  how  do  you
see  the  state  of  the  Baltic
Sea?
Jonas:  The  Baltic  Sea  is  in
better  shape  than  many
of  us  believe,  but  it  isn't  as
good  as  it  should  be.  Currently, ­
  the  greatest  problems ­
  are  still  the  phosphates ­
  and  nitrates  that
the  agriculture  brings  into
the  sea.  Shipping  traffic  will  increase.  We  must
guarantee  safe  seafaring,  prevent  the  introduction ­
  of  foreign  animals  in  ballast  water  and  stick
conseguently  to  the  valid  emissions  of  ship  exhaust ­
  gases.  Designated  protected  areas  must
be  excluded  from  economic  use.  This  demands
counselling  from  the  economy,  regulation  by
administrations  and  the  courage  to  implement
unpopular  measures.  All  political  assurances  are
useless  if  we  don't  implement  the  knowledge
that  we  have  about  the  ocean.  If  we  succeed  then
we  are  able  to  keep  the  Baltic  Sea  sound  even  under ­
  a  high  usage  pressure.  A

»Our  aim  must  be  to  use
hydrography  visibly.  My
project  o  f  the  all  physical
sea  chart  would  be  suitable
and  maybe  we  are  able
to  reposition  hydrography
in  future  under  the  aspect
engineering  the  biue«<
Mathias  Jonas

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